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Joe Hancock P-455, the "original" Quarter Horse versatility sire, was a 1923 15.3 hh brown stallion who was inducted in the AQHA Hall of Fame in 1992. In 2007 Western Horseman magazine chose Joe Hancock as number three on their list of top ten ranch horse bloodlines. HancockHorses.com is dedicated to providing a complete portal web presence to serve & represent all breeders of this important foundation bloodline whose horses of today are as successful & "modern" as their ancestors were in the founding years. All members of the Hancock Horse Breeders Group list free in the Breeder Directory (below). This website is visited 150 - 200 times daily, and is kept updated regularly to provide reference for all.

Mar 1. Hancock Horse breeders wish a speedy recovery to Tom Hancock... his son Joe Tom Hancock just told Lee Jones that Tom had a stroke, and is in rehab at Decanter Texas.


Hancock Horse Breeder Group Meetings?

"Any Hancock breeders planning to attend the 2010 AQHA Convention in Kissimmee, FL March 5-8 is welcome to meet. I will be attending the Convention and would like to know of any Hancock breeders, owners or anyone interested in Hancocks to get together and visit. There is no agenda - but anyone planning on being there contact me - and we'll set something up." Rickey Morales Lazy M Quarter Horses
tel: 830-968-6670.

JUNE 5th! "When I have my production sale, I am inviting Hancock breeders to put horses in. We will also have a meeting - we had some meetings in the '90's; we got to meet each other and it was really great. We could all get together an trade horses, if we don't get 'em sold. I will hold it in Wichita Falls TX. The catalog fee will be $125 plus 7% commission. Will have cattle to show horses on. No hidden fees. We can only take 125 head as the sale - the producer has decided to have a open sale the next day so if any one is too late for our sale they can get in that one. He is going to let tack dealers put on a trade show in part of the place. He sent an ad to Working Horse that will be in the March issue. He will also send out catalogs and I will have an online catalog on my website." Contact Lee Jones, C-J Horses, 580-281-3621, if interested.

The Hancock Sale & Meeting is for horses with Hancock breeding, and open to all Hancock Horse Breeders Group members. (If you are in our directory on the right, please make sure a Hancock Horse Breeders Logo link is placed prominently on your website!)

Members link to HancockHorses.com





Tom Hancock was on RFD-TV January 20, 2010. He was on Red Steagall's show. They talked about Joe Hancock and Red called the most dominant stud of all time. It was a great interview. Lee Jones is working on getting this on DVD, so we can upload to this website for all of us to view.



photo taken Sunday Aug 24 2008 by Phil Epp (PhilEpp.com) at the Select Hancock Breeders Production sale in Kearney, Nebraska

Announcement: Conscientious stallion owners now have the option to have their stallion tested at UC Davis for roan zygosity... We URGE you to have your horse tested to further document your Hancock horse in the homozygous roan stallion directory. It would be ideal to have this verification on all living 100% roan producing stallions listed in the directory.

April 20, 2009:
UC Davis Veterinary
Genetics Laboratory

Genetic Roan Zygosity Test - Quarter Horse and Paint Horse Breeds Only. Roan is a white patterning coat color trait of intermixed white and colored hairs in the body while the head, lower legs, mane and tail remain colored. Roan horses are born with the pattern, though it may not be obvious until the foal coat is shed. The white and colored hairs are evenly mixed in horses that inherit the classic Roan gene, which can differentiate this from several mimic patterns called roaning. Roaning patterns tend to be uneven in the distribution of white hairs and the inheritance of roaning has not been defined.

The Roan gene is found in a variety of breeds such as Quarter Horse, Paints, Peruvian Paso, Paso Fino, Welsh Pony, Miniature and Belgian, but not in Thoroughbreds or Arabians.

Although it has been suggested that Roan is a homozygous lethal, evidence from the Quarter Horse breed indicates otherwise. Production records
(I believe here they are largely referring to us Hancock Horse breeders...) have documented the existence of Roan Quarter Horses that produce 100% Roan foals.

DNA tests have confirmed homozygosity in the genomic region that contains the Roan gene.

Roan is inherited as a dominant gene but the specific mutation has not yet been identified, so there is no direct test for the gene.

But VGL has identified DNA markers in Quarter Horses and Paints associated with Roan that can be used to determine if a horse has the roan gene and how many copies.


If your stallion is in the homozygous roan stallion directory, you should seriously consider having him tested.

Wanted ... by Miami Police Mounted Unit ... Hancock bred gelding, 16hh minimum, aged from green broke to 13 years of age, sound, with good disposition to accept sensory/desensitization training for the street. We are a non profit organization and donations are tax deductible. Any Hancock equine enthusiasts looking for a good job and a great home for their horse - Contact:
Ofc Dave Patton,
Miami Mounted Police
cell: 305-562-6211
stable: 305-603-6490.

note: "We have 11 horses & 8 officers and a sergeant in our mounted unit. We do not have a budget to purchase horses, so we are forced to rely on equine enthusiasts who are looking for a good home and job for their horses. We were very fortunate to get a Hancock bred horse a couple of years ago. Mighty Moe's size, temperament & disposition are just perfect. He is probably the best horse we have. If we had a stable full like him, we would really have something!"

Summer 2009: "We still have Moe with us and he is one of the best/if not THE best natured horses we have in our unit. He is so accepting to his training, that our Chief John Timoney, and his staff members who are all beginner riders and ride a few times per year, ride him when they come to the stables and visit.. We would love to find more like him!!

UPDATE: these guys still want Hancock geldings. Anyone with any to give away, or young ones priced reasonable; "we get a lot of green broke horses. We train them constantly to get used to all the spooks associated with urban traffic et. If we had to depend on well trained horses, we would never get a horse donated to us. Also, at times if we can find something reasonably priced, usually $1,000 to $3,000 we can get lucky and find a sponsor to buy it for us. They then donate it to the horse tour unit, and get a tax credit since we are a non profit."

In support of peace officers & Hancock Horses, we will do an article on any breeder or owner who contributes a gelding to the Miami Police Mounted Unit, and offer it out for publicity. You may be able to solicit a business to donate the price of the horse, or the shipping too. Keep us informed.



most recent news & updates:


Breeder Article: Tvedt Hancock Horses, ND, April 2009 featured breeder, George & Sally Tvedt, breeding Hancock horses in Marion, North Dakota.


Stallion Owners: Renew your annual stallion ad in the Hancock Horses Stallion Directory for 2010.


Lee Jones has submitted another old photo; the latest is Lady Hancock, a daughter of Roan Hancock.


Breeder Article (Tribute): Vince Hayes, Thermopolis WY, by Baru Spiller (Thank You Baru!). Also, thanks to Jennifer Keller who posted Vince's obituary on the Hancock Horses message board. Does anyone have a photo of Vince we could include w/ this tribute article?


Joe Hancock VIDEO?? It seems there is a home video in the living room of a rancho in CA that has quite a few very old foundation sires, including one segment of Joe Hancock himself - not long and not terribly good quality, but how exciting to see a video of him! It was originally a home movie, transferred to VHS format. There may be some expense and effort in getting it - and then in transferring it to a more usable format. We are in the process of contacting the owner; and will keep you posted on our progress. Thanks, John!


Latest Articles: "The Roan Powerhouse" ... another "article" about Red Man; actually a chapter from Nelson Nye's book "Great Moments in Quarter Racing History" submitted by Lee Jones, C - J Ranch, Randlett OK.


Latest Articles: Joe Hancock: Check out our most recent article about Joe Hancock, by Phil Livingston, ("The Working Horse Magazine" April 2003) submitted by Hayden Dunsworth & his father. Thanks guys!


Latest articles:  What Makes a Horse, "Hancock Bred?", by Michelle Thompson. Is your horse Hancock "bred" or Hancock "influenced?" This article introduces guidelines for membership qualification. In most cases, your Hancock breeding horse(s) should have a minimum of 10% Joe Hancock blood. See also, Membership page. Email Michelle for help on figuring your horse's JH %.



SCAM EMAIL

Sellers: UNFORTUNATELY, internet Scammers are always working online classifieds sites, and HancockHorses.com is no exception... so, be careful out there. For more info, or if you have received any suspicious emails in response to your classified ad posted on HancockHorses.com, see SCAM EMAILS on the classifieds page, and read about how to spot these scams & how to protect yourself. If you have any doubt, forward any suspicious email to me, and I will be glad to help you figure out if it's for real or not. I ignore scam email, or will forward good fraud emails (the ones that are hard to tell) to the server company or the company being phished, such as fraud@Paypal.com etc. That helps fight back.


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Heart ...
... or,  Two Riders' Opinions

I talked to a friend
just the other day
who's got lots of opinions
and plenty to say.
We discussed what we both
like to see in a horse
His requirements and mine
were different of course…

He likes a clean throatlatch
and a long skinny neck,
and prefers that their hocks
are set close to the deck.
Short backs and hard feet
and clean slopin' shoulder,
and a gaskin that looks
like it swallered a boulder.

He likes a short face
and a big ol' soft eye,
and says these are the horses
he's likely to buy.
And when he'd completed
his lengthy discourse,
on all of the attributes
of the quality horse...

He asked my opinion;
... and ... where do I start?
I said that I …
just want horses with heart.
I said I want heart
above all the other.
I don't care if he's
Smart Little Lena's full brother.

Or just how much money
that his grandmother won,
or whether he's roan,
palomino or dun.
But give me a horse
with some grit and some try,
and some heart and some guts
and that's one that I'll buy.

And I've found it's the same,
with a woman or man….
the good ones won't quit you,
when the s*** hits the fan

by Monte Baker


A Hancock Compliment
... ya gotta see the humor in this!

He couId of said
you're sweet as pie
Or that you're prettier
than pasture posies.
He could have said
your company was precious
Or twice as nice as anything.

But no...
None of that would say it,
good enough to suit
And being shy,
he struggled w/ emotions,
seeking proper relevance--
and looking at his boots,
he found it, and spoke it
Before it slipped away,
or took a fright and hid again.

The finest compliment
that he could possibly imagine
He hoped she would realize
that even so
It still wasn't quite as much
As he would like to say.

"You are a woman
I'd be proud to ride beside," he said
"You remind me
of a really fine Hancock horse
The kind that
you can do anything astride
The kind that's full of try."

And she, shy too, swelled up w/ pride inside, and couldn't speak
But knew exactly what he meant
as she went racing home to Mother
Comparing herself to the supple athleticism, the tenacity,
The incomparable intelligence of the
Finest cow horses this country's ever seen...

She couldn't believe it
when her Mom kinda hurt her
Listening to her breathless recitation
Of his wonderful Hancock comparison
And laughed and laughed and laughed.

"That's great! Hancock horses...
Perfect wives!"
Dear Mother laughed and cried,
"Hard headed buckers, tough to break,
Big in the hind end,
and mostly ugly in the head!"

by Lou Wood, cowboy poet
WA (Woodland Acres) Ranch
Flippin, Arkansas




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Roan Hancock at the Lowry Ranch, courtesy Orren Mixer


"For being out in rocks and rough country, with cows in the brush,
you need the Driftwood-Hancock horses."

~ Leroy Webb, 76 yr old New Mexico cowboy
January 2010 issue of Western Horseman
(thanks Lee)



"The maternal grandmother of Two Eye Jack was an own daughter of Roan Hancock
by Joe Hancock. That Joe Hancock must have been a heck of a horse."

~ Fred Lucero, Canutillo TX Feb 2010, AQHJ
(wife D'aun, sister to Olin Young, world champion calf roper)
(thanks Baru)




Feb 2010 Announcement: We just emailed out the (No.5) Hancock Horse Breeders Newsletter to all our subscribers, and out of about 275 subscribers, there are about 40 that bounced. Some of these look like valid emails that should be subscribed, but I am deleting all the bouncers anyway, to clear out all the old defunct emails. (they all bounce to our email address!) So if you are subscribed, and did not receive it... you better go subscribe again, and put info@hancockhorses.com on your Good-Guy/ White Hat list.






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